Redakcija: 01:21, 23. december 2004 uredi XJaM (pogovor \| prispevki) Birokrati, Administratorji 123.627 urejanj m →‎[[143 (število)\|143]] ← Starejše urejanje		Redakcija: 01:36, 23. december 2004 uredi razveljavi XJaM (pogovor \| prispevki) Birokrati, Administratorji 123.627 urejanj m →‎[[143 (število)\|143]]: typos\|nesotuještevno -> sotuještevno ~ Novejše urejanje →
Vrstica 149: ::::I see. (Word endings is what has given me the most trouble in learning Slovene so far. That and not having someone to practice the language in a conversational manner.) [[Uporabnik:Anton Mravcek\|Anton Mravcek]] 22:31, 22 dec 2004 (CET) ::::: Yes, the same goes with English, when you try to ~~traslate~~translate - particularly technical text. English speaker knows what in fact (simple words) as nontotient, coprime mean, but 'the lack' of word endings in English troubles non-English speaking. For instance, English article about [[:en:colour\|colour]] sounds to me that it comes from some Shakespeare's work or that the article was rewritten from [[Isaac Newton\|Newton]]'s famous book ''(The) Opticks''. If someone thinks that English is 'easy' because it is so widely used today, he is in a great mistake. It takes a great effort to translate English wikipedia articles, let us say, in Slovene. --[[Uporabnik:XJamRastafire\|xJaM]] 23:01, 22 dec 2004 (CET) ::: If I would be Slovene Sylvester I would call »nontotient number« in Slovene as »tuještevno število«! This is a good idea (based on your English term), but unfortunately it is just an artificial (but good) construction (or »konstrukt« as it is said in Slovene) --[[Uporabnik:XJamRastafire\|xJaM]] 22:22, 22 dec 2004 (CET) Vrstica 155: ::::»Tuještevno število«. That has a very nice ring to it. It fits better with the rhythm of the language. In fact, I think it is the best thing to come out of this brainstorm. So then would noncototient be »kotuještevno število« and highly totient number be »zelo tuještev število«? [[Uporabnik:Anton Mravcek\|Anton Mravcek]] 22:31, 22 dec 2004 (CET) ::::: Yes, I've seen [[:en:user:PrimeFan\|PrimeFan]]'s list about words for nontotients in other languages and his notice in your and my English user page. Noncototient should be ~~neso~~»so-« (without negation, since term comes from coprime count, not from already negated nontotient!), since »co-« in Slovene means »so-«, for example »coaction« is called »so(delovanje)« and so on. So more properly would be »~~nesotuještevno~~sotuještevno število«. »Zelo tuještevno število« would be correct, similar as [[zelo sestavljeno število]] ([[:en:Highly composite number\|Highly composite number]]). I'll correct nesotuještevno število there as a proposal. --[[Uporabnik:XJamRastafire\|xJaM]] 00:21, 23 dec 2004 (CET) ::::: And as I've said - we should not yet use the term as it is merely our invention. I guess [[uporabnik:romanm\|Roman]] will speak up soon about this matter and I believe he won't agree, so caution won't hurt. But in similar manner we have come to the term about [[praštevilski razcep]] (it should point out to [[:en:Integer factorization\|Integer factorization]], not in fact to [[:en:Factorization\|Factorization]] - I have to correct this), so this conversation is not in vain for sure. --[[Uporabnik:XJamRastafire\|xJaM]] 23:01, 22 dec 2004 (CET)

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